Tango Tango

Not every leader commands the room. Some lead by listening, and for Dan Wrightsman, that instinct started early. Born in South Korea and adopted into an Army family, he grew up on military bases, enlisted as an infantryman at nineteen, and spent thirty years in uniform building a career around the people beside him. From the beaches of Hawaii to the streets of Baghdad, Dan carried the same belief into every assignment: take care of your team, and they will take care of everything else. As he puts it, the one constant across every post was having great teammates. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans, host Lloyd Knight sits down with retired Army Sergeant Major Dan Wrightsman to reflect on his journey from Army brat in Korea to thirty years of service and beyond. Dan shares lessons from his early years as a light fighter in Hawaii, the culture shock of transitioning from military to civilian schools, the personal growth that came with recruiting duty, and the…

Some journeys are shaped by moments that force you to decide whether to keep hiding or start rebuilding. For Tyler Bowser, that journey has included military service, unimaginable loss, addiction, homelessness, recovery, faith, and ultimately a new purpose serving fellow veterans. After growing up in Southern California and following his grandfather and brother into military service, Tyler joined the Air Force, where he found a sense of belonging, mission, and community that would stay with him long after leaving active duty. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Tyler Bowser, Program Director for Connecting Georgia Veterans, to discuss the experiences that shaped his life and his path back from its lowest point. Tyler reflects on his time in the Air Force, deploying to Kuwait, transitioning into the civilian workforce, losing his daughter Taylor Kate to spinal muscular atrophy, and returning overseas as a contractor in…

Some careers follow a straight line. Others are built through service, adaptability, and the relationships that endure along the way. For Kevin Horgan, five years in the U.S. Marine Corps became the foundation for a decades-long career at UPS, a commitment to the veteran community, and an approach to leadership rooted in listening, learning, and bringing your best every day. Through every transition, Kevin learned that success is rarely an individual achievement. As he puts it, “No one’s an island.” In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Marine Corps veteran, retired UPSer, VETS-TALK Co-Founder, VETLANTA Executive Board Member, and author Kevin Horgan to reflect on his journey through military service, law school, corporate leadership, and veteran advocacy. Kevin shares lessons from becoming a young Marine officer, learning when to listen instead of lead, attending law school while working at UPS, and navigating a career…

From combat engineer to combat medic, flight medic, Army officer, recruiting commander, and now military and veteran recruiter, Peter Mahmood’s career is a story of adaptability, service, and being willing to take the next opportunity, even when it wasn’t part of the original plan. In this episode of the Tango Tango Podcast, sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Army veteran and Cox Enterprises military relations leader Peter Mahmood to explore his remarkable 24-year military career and the pivots that shaped his path. Peter shares stories from assignments in Germany, Korea, West Point, Washington, D.C., and Iraq, along with his transition from enlisted soldier to officer and eventually into Army recruiting. The conversation then turns to Peter’s civilian career, his work connecting veterans and military spouses with opportunities at Cox Enterprises, and practical advice for service members preparing to leave the military. Peter also discusses why translating the full…

Not every road to purpose is a straight one. For Michelle Lang, it wound through Fulton County, Pennsylvania, a rural community of just over a thousand people, through years of military spouse life nobody prepares you for, and eventually toward a mission she built herself. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Michelle Lang, Executive Director of Operation Honor: Rural Salutes, to talk through her path from small-town Pennsylvania to founding a nonprofit focused on bringing resources to rural veterans and military families. Michelle opens up about the hard years at Fort Drum, working four jobs just to feel useful, the toxic spouse culture she encountered, and the moment during her husband's deployment that made her stop waiting and start building. They also get into the Bush Institute Veterans Leadership Program, how the connections she made there became the foundation of her work, and what Operation Honor Rural Salutes is…

Transitioning from military service to a civilian career can feel overwhelming, especially when service members are unsure where to begin or which resources to use. In this episode of the Tango Tango Podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Marine Corps veteran and UPS veteran recruiter Eric Wesolowski to share honest lessons, practical strategies, and firsthand experience from both sides of the hiring process. Eric reflects on his journey from Marine infantryman and sniper team leader to military instructor, reservist, and veteran recruiter. He opens up about leaving active duty without a clear career plan, accepting the first job he could find, experiencing a layoff, and eventually discovering a new career through an unexpected networking connection. Drawing on their combined experience recruiting and supporting veterans, Eric and Lloyd offer actionable guidance for transitioning service members, veterans, and military spouses. They discuss the importance of starting the transition process early, building…

In this classic episode of the Tango Tango podcast, sponsored by CareSource Military & Veterans, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Pat McNamara, a retired Delta Force operator, small business owner, creator of Basic Dude Stuff, and the ultimate champion of resilience. Mac opens up about his journey from elite military operations to navigating darkness after service, revealing the deeply personal story behind his second lease on life. Listeners get a raw look at the highs and lows of Pat’s career, from failing Special Forces training to becoming one of the top performers in Delta. But the most gripping moments come after the battlefield, when he’s living in a bonus room above his garage, caring for his kids, and battling depression and burnout. It was a moment with his son and a screech owl that sparked the turnaround, and a single run that helped him remember who he was. This isn’t just a story about combat. It’s a story of fatherhood, recovery, discipline, and the choice to grow. From surviving a towed…

Some paths don’t move in a straight line. They’re shaped by grit, responsibility, and the willingness to keep choosing impact, even when the original plan changes. For Katherine Torres-Pummill, that path began in Queens, New York, where she was raised by a resilient single mother in a first-generation household surrounded by culture, community, and hard-earned lessons. She once imagined a future in law and public service, but her career in media revealed another way to serve: by telling stories, creating visibility, and helping communities be seen. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Katherine Torres-Pummill, General Manager of Military & Defense at Recurrent Ventures, to discuss her journey from New York City to leading some of the most influential brands in the military and veteran space. Kathy reflects on growing up in Queens, working full-time while attending college at night, building a career across outdoor advertising, news, licensing, and digital media, and…

Some callings start with a moment you can’t ignore. For Brandon Wilson, that moment came after the death of his childhood friend, whose helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan. Raised in Brevard, North Carolina, in a family rooted in faith, hard work, and generations of military service, Brandon left a life as a professional hunting guide and walked into a Marine Corps recruiting office ready to serve. What followed was 12 years in the infantry, deployments to Iraq and Ukraine, and a deeper understanding of sacrifice, brotherhood, and what it means to keep showing up for the people beside you. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Brandon Wilson, Marine Corps veteran, Chief Operating Officer of Asheville Buncombe Community Christian Ministry, and longtime veteran advocate, for a conversation about service, transition, mentorship, and faith. Brandon reflects on growing up in rural North Carolina, joining the Marine Corps after his childhood friend’s death, finding his…

Some careers are built through careful planning. Others are shaped by curiosity, service, and a willingness to keep showing up wherever people need you most. For Beau Higgins, the path from New Orleans to Marine Corps colonel was never about chasing status or recognition. It was about leadership, responsibility, and taking care of the people around him. From humanitarian missions in Somalia to combat deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan, Beau learned that leadership changes as you grow, but the foundation stays the same: put your people first, stay humble, and never make it about yourself. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Beau Higgins, Marine Corps veteran, senior client partner at The Military Veteran, and VP for business development at Oplign, to discuss leadership, military transition, and the power of personal branding. Beau reflects on his journey from New Orleans to the battlefield to the corporate world, sharing lessons on mentorship, veteran hiring,…

Some of the strongest leaders don’t find their voice at the peak of their success. They find it in the moments when everything starts to fall apart. Shaped by humble beginnings, hard lessons, and a constant awareness of the paths he didn’t want to take, Dr. Keith “KC” Castille’s rise to Chief Master Sergeant was built slowly through mentorship, self-discovery, and a growing understanding that leadership isn’t about rank, it’s about responsibility. Behind the uniform, though, were deeper struggles. Loss, grief, and the weight of raising three sons on his own brought him to a breaking point that forced him to confront something he had spent a lifetime avoiding. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast sponsored by CareSource, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Dr. Keith “KC” Castille, CEO of C2H LLC, for an honest, unfiltered reflection on what it means to lead when you’re hurting. Together, they move through the defining chapters of KC’s life and the quiet battles that followed him along the way. KC shares…

Purpose can be forged in the most unexpected crucibles. From growing up as a homeschooled "Grady baby" in Atlanta's South Cobb area to serving as an Army infantry officer deployed to Afghanistan with Special Forces, Zack Knight's path took him through the grind of blue-collar work, the discipline of law enforcement, the chaos of combat, and the depths of his own personal rock bottom, before finding healing and a renewed sense of mission. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Army veteran, entrepreneur, author, and ATLVets founder Zack Knight. Despite sharing a last name, the two are quick to clarify they're not related, though they've become close brothers in the veteran community. Zack reflects on his Atlanta upbringing, his years with the Smyrna Police Department, his decision to join active duty at 28, and his deployment to Afghanistan in 2019 where his unit lost six soldiers. They discuss the physical and mental toll of combat and Zack’s spiral into survivor’s guilt…

The journey to purpose unfolds in unexpected ways. From growing up in small-town New Jersey to serving in the U.S. Marine Corps during Desert Storm, Kevin Schmiegel’s path led him through nonprofit leadership and ultimately to founding ZeroMils, a company committed to helping veterans thrive in civilian life. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight speaks with Marine Corps veteran and ZeroMils founder Kevin Schmiegel. He reflects on his upbringing in Toms River, New Jersey, his ROTC scholarship, and his career as an artillery officer in the Marines. After his service, he transitioned into nonprofit work, ultimately founding Zero Mills to support veterans in thriving beyond military service. They discuss Schmiegel’s military service, the hardships he faced, and how his nonprofit experiences led him to create a new model for veteran success. Today, he’s focused on helping veterans build purpose, opportunity, and community in their post-service lives. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro…

In this episode of the Tango Tango Podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Air Force veteran and former Deputy of Military Affairs at USAA, Michael Kelly, for a candid conversation about leadership, transition, and building a meaningful career after service. From his early days as a security policeman to retraining into public affairs and ultimately becoming an officer, Michael shares the pivotal moments, mentors, and mindset shifts that shaped his journey. He reflects on the realities of military life, lessons learned through deployment and leadership, and how those experiences translated into a successful 20+ year corporate career. The conversation also dives into one of the most critical topics for service members: transitioning to civilian life. Michael offers practical advice on networking, planning ahead, and positioning yourself for success in a competitive job market. Whether you're currently serving, transitioning, or simply interested in leadership and career growth, this episode delivers…

Purpose often emerges from unexpected paths. For Patrick Flood, that path ran from small-town Wisconsin to Hollywood sets, from Special Forces deployments to entrepreneurship, and ultimately to helping veterans build and exit businesses with dignity. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight speaks with Army Special Forces veteran, entrepreneur, and Owners in Honor founder Patrick Flood. Flood reflects on growing up in Wisconsin, earning an ROTC scholarship to George Washington University, and beginning his career as an Army officer before an unexpected turn into acting in Los Angeles. After booking commercials, television roles, and film work, he realized that success in Hollywood still felt empty and pulled him back toward a life of service. They discuss Flood’s return to active duty through the U.S. Army Special Operations Command, his deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq, and the injuries and hardships that shaped his leadership and sense of purpose. He also shares how his father’s business…

Nobody trains and educates better than the military. That belief, shaped by decades of service and leadership, continues to guide how she develops people and advises organizations today. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight speaks with retired Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force JoAnne Bass, the first woman to serve as the senior enlisted leader of a United States military service. An Army brat who grew up moving around the world, from Illinois to Germany to Hawaii, Bass reflects on her early years, including getting into trouble as a teenager and joining the Air Force in 1993, looking for direction and discipline. They discuss her journey from aviation management in the operations world to senior enlisted leadership at Ramstein, Goodfellow, the Pentagon, and Second Air Force. Bass shares lessons on mentorship, resilience, and learning to take care of herself after experiencing burnout. She also speaks candidly about becoming Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force during a time of…

Do the right thing, even if you never get the credit. That mindset guided a 36-year Army career and continues to drive service beyond the uniform. In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight speaks with retired Sergeant Major of the Army Tony Grinston, who now serves as CEO of Army Emergency Relief. He reflects on growing up in Jasper, Alabama, joining the Army for a two-year enlistment, and serving more than three decades in uniform, including multiple combat deployments and leadership at the highest enlisted level. They discuss his path to becoming the 16th Sergeant Major of the Army, the demands of advising senior leaders and testifying before Congress, and his approach to tackling suicide, sexual assault, and quality of life by improving how the Army treats its people. Grinston also shares his transition out of uniform, his role leading Army Emergency Relief, and why continuing to serve off the battlefield remains his greatest calling. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (00:33)…

In this powerful episode of The Tango Tango Podcast, we sit down with Kevin Miller, a U.S. Army veteran and President of the Georgia Veterans Day Parade, to explore a journey defined by service, resilience, and community. Kevin shares his story from growing up in rural Franklin, Pennsylvania, to enlisting in the Army and training at Fort Benning during Desert Shield. He reflects on serving with the 2nd Infantry Division in Korea near the DMZ, and how that experience shaped his pride in military service and the U.S.–Korea alliance. The conversation takes a deeply moving turn as Kevin recounts surviving the tragic Green Ramp disaster at Fort Bragg—an event that tested his strength and forever changed his life. He opens up about recovery, brotherhood, and the extraordinary support of the military community. After transitioning to civilian life, Kevin found new purpose in Atlanta, becoming a driving force behind the Georgia Veterans Day Parade and working with the Korea Defense Veterans Association. His mission:…

On this episode of the Tango Tango Podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Army veteran and Washington Tattoo CEO Mark Reilly for an inspiring conversation about service, music, leadership, and healing. Mark shares his journey from growing up as a talented young musician in New York to serving in the U.S. Army’s prestigious Old Guard Fife and Drum Corps. Along the way, he reflects on performing on international stages, representing the military through music, and navigating the transition from uniform to civilian leadership. The conversation dives deep into the Washington Tattoo’s powerful mission to support veteran mental health through music wellness — a unique, community-driven approach that complements traditional care and creates meaningful connections for those who’ve served. Mark also discusses the organization’s role in America 250, helping celebrate the nation’s 250th anniversary through music, service, and remembrance. In this episode, you’ll learn: How music shaped Mark’s military and…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight speaks with Dr. Qwynn Galloway-Salazar, an Army veteran whose post-service mission is supporting service members, veterans, and their families. She shares how running a military mailroom revealed what lives beneath the uniform and inspired her path into criminal justice and counseling. They discuss her work at the intersection of trauma recovery and the criminal justice system, including training law enforcement, courts, and treatment programs to recognize military-connected trauma and reduce cycles of crisis and incarceration. Qwynn also discusses compassion fatigue and the practices that help her stay grounded. Qwynn then explains how a mentor’s terminal diagnosis led her to become a death doula and advocate for dignified end-of-life care for veterans. From building In Their Honor to leading national training through PsychArmor, she reflects on how storytelling, cultural competency, and heart-centered leadership can transform support for the…

In this special episode of Tango Tango, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Holly Joers, President, Military and Veterans for CareSource, for an inside look at one of the most important changes impacting military families this year: TRICARE Open Season and the brand-new CareSource Military & Veterans Prime option available in Atlanta and Tampa. Holly shares her remarkable journey—from growing up in small-town West Virginia to a distinguished civil service career across the Air Force, the F-35 program, and the Defense Health Agency—before transitioning into the mission-driven world of CareSource. Her unique background offers rare insight into how healthcare innovation, military culture, and patient-centric design come together in this groundbreaking TRICARE demonstration program. Listeners will learn: What TRICARE is and who is eligible Why the new CareSource Prime option matters, including game-changing benefits like no referrals for in-network specialists How CareSource leverages decades of experience in…

In a year defined by service, storytelling, and the power of community, Tango Tango’s first season put authentic veteran voices front and center. From Special Operations legends to storytellers preserving history, the series explored what it actually takes to translate military experience into meaningful civilian impact. In this special Season 1 Veteran’s Day wrap-up, Supply Chain Now’s Scott Luton joins Tango Tango’s own Lloyd Knight to unpack the year: why active listening is a podcaster’s superpower, what organizations get wrong (and right) about veteran hiring, and how Season 2 will go bigger with 20 episodes and even more consequential stories. Scott and Lloyd discuss the differences between Veterans Day, Memorial Day, and Armed Forces Day; three practical best practices for recruiting veteran talent; and highlights from standout episodes, from Pat McNamara’s raw, veteran-to-veteran conversation to Atomic Echoes, the PBS documentary that bridges U.S. servicemembers and survivors in Japan. They also…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes authors and filmmakers Karin Tanabe and Victoria Kelly to share the journey behind their PBS documentary Atomic Echoes. With family histories connected to both sides of World War II, Victoria’s grandfather served as a medic in Nagasaki and Karin’s grandfather was a Japanese soldier, the longtime friends uncover powerful stories of resilience, reconciliation, and hope. They discuss how the project began, the challenges of interviewing veterans and survivors, and the intensive research required to capture voices long overlooked. From faith communities in Japan to American veterans who were never recognized for their post-war service, Atomic Echoes offers a respectful and human lens on history. Karin and Victoria also reflect on the lessons they gained from the filmmaking process, from fundraising to finishing the project in just 11 months. More than a story about the past, their film underscores the urgent need for peace and the unifying…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight sits down with U.S. Army veteran, Black Hawk pilot, author, and founder of Kingdom Operatives, Adam Jones. Adam shares his inspiring journey from growing up near Mario Andretti’s hometown in Pennsylvania to fulfilling his childhood dream of flying Black Hawks in the Army National Guard, overcoming unexpected challenges, and ultimately embracing a new calling to help others. Adam opens up about the struggles he faced balancing military life, family, and personal identity, including the moments of deep inner conflict that nearly cost his marriage and life. Through powerful mentorship and faith, he found a path to healing and transformation, leading him to write his book "Weapons of Mass Deception" and build Kingdom Operatives to equip leaders and veterans to break free from silent struggles and build resilience. From his military experiences to his commitment to sharing his story as a message of hope, Adam offers profound insights into overcoming drift,…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Ross Dickman, CEO of Hire Heroes USA. Ross shares his journey from West Point to Army aviation, flying AH-64 Apaches with the 1st Cavalry Division, and deploying to Camp Taji, Iraq. He reflects on lessons from the cockpit, an aide-de-camp tour at the Army Safety Center, and a return to West Point as a TAC officer—experiences that shaped how he leads and how he thinks about life after service. Now leading Hire Heroes USA, Ross focuses on employment as the foundation of post-service well-being. He talks about practical tools: clear, targeted resumes, mock interviews with real hiring managers, technology that keeps people in the process, and a push toward skills-based hiring, along with the power of partnerships and volunteers, and why providing free, lifetime career support to veterans and military spouses still drives his mission today. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (00:51) Ross Dickman’s background as veteran leader (03:33)…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Army Public Affairs Hall of Famer Gail McCabe. Gail shares her journey from working in Hollywood to becoming one of the Army’s first civilian broadcast journalists. She reflects on covering missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, including two attacks that earned her the Defense of Freedom Medal. Her stories, from tank competitions in Germany to humanitarian efforts in war zones, highlight the power of journalism to preserve history and honor sacrifice. Now retired, Gail continues her storytelling through her company, CreativeMediaMatters. She talks about the emotional impact of covering conflict, the lessons she’s carried with her, and why helping others understand the human side of military service still drives her today. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (00:36) Meet Gail McCabe: A hall of famer’s journey (01:07) Gail’s early life and love story (02:23) From Hollywood to the Army (05:14) Broadcast journalism and covering the military…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, Lloyd Knight sits down with U.S. Navy veteran and entrepreneur Alex Witt, CEO of Battle Bars. From sleeping on metal grating in Iraq to building a multi-million-dollar logistics business—and walking away from it all—Alex shares the path that led him to start a mission-driven brand focused on integrity, nostalgia, and purpose. Alex opens up about joining the Navy just before 9/11, the sense of guilt that pushed him to deploy, and the turning point that came after the tragic loss of a close friend. That heartbreak would eventually lead to a new purpose through Battle Bars, a company rooted in veteran values and a commitment to doing things differently. From making sales calls and shipping orders himself to building partnerships with Barstool Sports and Lifetime Fitness, Alex offers powerful insights into what it takes to lead with passion, resilience, and authenticity on and off the battlefield. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (01:43) Chicago and Cubs…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, hosts Lloyd Knight and Scott W. Luton discuss workplace culture, one of the most overlooked elements of career success. From defining what culture really means to sharing hard truths about toxic environments, Lloyd draws on over 14 years of experience teaching culture to veterans and corporate teams. They talk about why many job seekers overlook culture, how leadership can affect your health, and what signs to look for when evaluating a company. Lloyd also shares stories from his own transition from the Air Force to UPS, including how outdated policies had to evolve to attract and retain top talent. Whether you’re a veteran preparing to enter the civilian workforce or a leader trying to improve team performance, this episode offers real-world examples, personal lessons, and a powerful reminder that culture isn’t a perk, it’s a priority. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (01:15) Defining workplace culture (02:59) Formal definition of workplace culture…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes Lacy Gunnoe, director of wellbeing at Camp Southern Ground and a fellow Air Force veteran. Lacy shares his journey from growing up in rural West Virginia to becoming a pilot and instructor in the Air Force, flying everything from the T-37 tweet to KC-135 tankers. He opens up about the challenges and rewards of military life, deployments, and the leadership lessons that shaped his path. Lacy then takes us behind the scenes at Camp Southern Ground, a unique nonprofit founded by musician Zac Brown with a vision of inclusion and healing. He explains how the camp serves veterans and children with innovative programs rooted in wellbeing, post-traumatic growth, and community. From the sustainable facilities and organic gardens to life-changing activities and personalized support, Lacy reveals how this special place is transforming lives and helping veterans find new purpose beyond the uniform. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (01:10)…

In this episode of Tango Tango, Scott Luton and Lloyd Knight explore the importance of personal branding for job seekers, veterans transitioning into civilian careers, and professionals aiming to boost their visibility. Whether you’re new to the job market, or looking to stand out at a job fair, personal branding is a crucial tool to differentiate yourself from the competition. They talk about how personal branding helps you stand out in a crowded job market and establishes credibility and trust with potential employers. From perfecting your elevator pitch to managing your LinkedIn profile, Lloyd provides practical tips on how to make a lasting impression. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (01:10) The importance of personal branding (01:30) Transitioning from military to civilian careers (03:39) Key elements of personal branding (04:45) Standing out in job applications (07:43) The role of online presence (09:33) Defining your personal brand (14:03) Three key tips for personal branding (21:25) The…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Steve Prince, a U.S. Army veteran and founder of Warrior Set Free. Steve takes us through his deeply personal journey from his struggles with discipline in his early years to his transformative experiences in the military and the profound lessons he's learned along the way. Steve reflects on his path to joining the Army, driven by a need for discipline, college funding, and a desire to belong to something meaningful. He shares the pain of growing up without a father, whose suicide when Steve was five left a lasting impact. This loss shaped his life and drove him to the military, where he would face trials and triumphs alike. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (00:50) Steve Prince and his life’s journey (08:24) Challenges and forgiveness (10:32) Career setbacks and lessons learned (17:12) Transition to civilian life and ministry (24:45) Introduction to warrior freedom appointments (25:05) Presenting the gospel (26:49)…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight welcomes retired four-star General John Handy, former Commander of U.S. Transportation Command and Air Mobility Command. With a career that spanned nearly four decades, General Handy shares his journey from humble beginnings in Raleigh, North Carolina, to becoming one of the highest-ranking leaders in the U.S. Air Force. General Handy opens up about how a love for aviation shaped his path, the life-altering crash that rerouted his early career, and the leadership lessons forged in Vietnam and beyond. He reflects on the value of mentorship, the meaning of service, and why every day is a blessing. From flying the C-130 to commanding global logistics operations post-9/11, Handy’s story is one of grit, humility, and lifelong purpose. Jump into the conversation: (00:00) Intro (02:00) Early life and education (07:15) Joining the Air Force (18:18) Vietnam war experiences (23:52) Post-Vietnam assignments (28:01) New Zealand exchange program (35:52)…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with Pat McNamara, a retired Delta Force operator, small business owner, creator of Basic Dude Stuff, and the ultimate champion of resilience. Mac opens up about his journey from elite military operations to navigating darkness after service, revealing the deeply personal story behind his second lease on life. Listeners get a raw look at the highs and lows of Pat’s career, from failing Special Forces training to becoming one of the top performers in Delta. But the most gripping moments come after the battlefield, when he’s living in a bonus room above his garage, caring for his kids, and battling depression and burnout. It was a moment with his son and a screech owl that sparked the turnaround, and a single run that helped him remember who he was. This isn’t just a story about combat. It’s a story of fatherhood, recovery, discipline, and the choice to grow. From surviving a towed parachute jump to creating a children’s show rooted in…

In this episode of the Tango Tango podcast, host Lloyd Knight sits down with retired Army Colonel John Thompson, a veteran Night Stalker and one of the mission leads behind the historic raid that killed Osama Bin Laden. John takes listeners deep inside the operations of Task Force 160, the U.S. Army’s elite special operations aviation unit, sharing the mindset, logistics, and extraordinary preparation that went into one of the most consequential missions in modern history. John also opens up about his upbringing as a Gold Star son, his roots in Georgia, and how a letter from his late father shaped the path of a 30-year military career. From a busted wrist before flight school to leading elite helicopter assault teams in Desert Storm, Iraq, Afghanistan, and ultimately Abbottabad—John’s journey is a testament to grit, humility, and excellence under pressure. This episode isn’t just about one mission. It’s about the decades of leadership, sacrifice, and quiet service that made that mission possible. Jump into…

In this inaugural episode of the Tango Tango podcast, proudly sponsored by Supply Chain Now, Scott Luton and Lloyd Knight kick off a new chapter in veteran storytelling by exploring the evolution from Veteran Voices to Tango Tango. The mission remains the same—amplifying veteran perspectives, experiences, and leadership—but the format and energy get a bold refresh. Lloyd shares his inspiring journey from a 20-year career in the U.S. Air Force to his current role leading veteran talent acquisition and retention at UPS, one of the largest veteran employers in the world. He reflects on how his experiences as a loadmaster, first sergeant, and logistics innovator shaped his leadership approach, both in service and in corporate America. The episode also digs into Lloyd’s founding of VETLANTA, an award-winning collaboration hub uniting veteran-focused business resource groups across Atlanta, and the creation of his book and platform, Knight Work. Lloyd and Scott discuss the power of culture, community, and honest…